Game Theory: The Secret Identity of Hollow Knight's Hero (Hollow Knight)

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    A game that grabbed my attention recently is Hollow Knight, the indie darling about insect creatures in masks being terrorized by a creature corrupted by Randiance. This game is LOADED with theory material but what grabbed my attention most was the character we play as - the Knight. There is so much we don't know but the clues are EVERYWHERE! Today Loyal Theorists, we are unmasking the secret identity of the Knight or Hollow Knight!
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    1. The Game Theorists

      The below comment is from the channel Sumwan who did an incredible job critiquing this episode. Unfortunately, the comment got lost (ROfor has an algorithm that is constantly "turning over" comments on high-view videos) and despite digging around for hours looking for it, I couldn't find the original. But the work that she put in was SO thorough that I wanted to make sure it got seen, so here it is! ***Original Text from Sumwan*** I've seen this claim many times and it really does not make any sense. Not only does it contradict evidence in the game but it is very misleading. I'll go through the points one by one and explain why: 6:35 “We too might be in the ranks of a higher being” The Knight is the child of the Pale King and the White Lady, who are both higher beings. It makes sense that the Knight is able to read these higher being tablets. This doesn't mean that the Pale King IS the Knight. 7:20 “Does it really sound like we're just some failed experiment cast into the depths of this world?” No, it doesn't sound like that. The Vessels are the children of the Pale King and the White Lady who are born from eggs in the Abyss, which gave them a Shade. The Vessels are not just “failed experiments”. 8:12 “This poem is addressed to the Pale King” It literally says “elegy for HALLOWNEST”. This poem is about Hallownest. “Under palest watch” refers to the Pale King, but the “you”, is most definitely Hallownest. 8:30 “In the beginning of the game's lore, all bugs were basically a hive mind controlled by the moth god Radiance” This information is not supported by anything. Only the Radiance's descendants, the moth tribe, worshipped her. Nowhere is it stated that the Radiance controlled everything else. The Mantis Tribe, the Mosskin, Deepnest, and the Hive were all separate tribes and already had minds before the Pale King. 8:51 “This isn't just a poem about the Pale King, it is directed TO the Pale King” It is about Hallownest and it is direct to Hallownest (elegy for Hallownest). 8:55 “What do we see appear on screen just moments later? Our Knight” After the poem we see THE HOLLOW KNIGHT, not the Knight. The Knight scene appears after we see the Radiance break out of the Hollow Knight. Team Cherry is NOT drawing a parallel between the Knight and the Pale King. The poem is about Hallownest. It is FOR Hallownest. And the scene with the Knight does not appear right after the poem. 10:27 “Elderbug says we are seeking our dreams in perhaps a very literal sense.” The context of this sentence matters. Elderbug is talking about how all the previous travellers went down into Hallownest to follow their dreams. He does not actually know if the Knight has any “dreams” themselves. 11:00 “Elderbug wondering if he's seen a ghost is another potentially clever play on words” No it's not. Elderbug is just referring to how he thought maybe he didn't see anyone pass him because the Knight left so quickly. This dialogue has no other meaning besides that. 11:36 “White Lady: Is it more than simply a Vessel? I almost feel like I'm once again in the presence of my beloved Wyrm” The White Lady only says this because the Knight is wearing the Kingsoul. The Kingsoul reminds her of the Pale King, not the Knight themselves. Also, the White Lady literally calls the Knight her spawn when they visit her with Grimmchild equipped: “Success then for the scarlet heart, and irony, to use my spawn to grow its own.” Are you saying that the White Lady gave birth to her own husband? 11:46 “Your noble bearing reminds me of our dear King” No surprise there since the Knight is the child of the Pale King. 12:05 “The bugs in White Palace bowing as you approach them is just screaming that you're the king” White Palace is a whole other issue, but this is really not concrete evidence. Also their dream nail dialogue makes no sense if it refers to the Knight. 12:19 “10/10 Royal Retainers can't be wrong. You are royalty” You're actually right there. The Knight IS royalty, since they're the child of the King. Not because they ARE the King. 13:28 “This line of “more transformation” seems to imply that the Pale King's death would only lead to yet another form” Not really. Bardoon says that the Pale King's death in Kingdom's Edge was not an actual death, but that it was more like a transformation. This does not mean that the Pale King can transform again after he became his bug shape. A caterpillar transforming into a butterfly also cannot transform into another being again. 13:49 “It's an ancient force that opposes the blinding light of [the Radiance]” Not just the Radiance's light, but the Pale King's too. He is referred to as a light in multiple places: The Seer: “But another light appeared in our world... A wyrm that took the form of a king.” The Pale King calls himself a light in the throne room lore tablet: “No blazing kin. Only one light shall shine against the dark.” As does the Teacher’s Archives lore tablet: “-KINGLIGHT-EM-GROWTH-INKIND-FLOW-ALLTHINK-ENFIELD” Other bugs talk about the Pale King emanating light: “Though even its pure aura is no match for the light of our dear King.” (Eternal Emilitia) “I've heard he was a glorious bug to behold, bright and radiant in visage, so much so it hurt to look at him.” (Last/Old Stag) “That lingering power alone was beacon enough to draw Us to Hallownest. How bright it must have been to mortal bug stood before it.” (Godseeker) 14:45 “The Pale King used Void to fight time itself. He wants to use the Void to attain eternal life. He births himself as a Void-based creature” Not literally time. Time here is capitalized, and it is more likely to just refer to the Radiance. Locking up the Radiance is generally seen as being what has caused the Kingdom to remain in a stasis: “Bear witness to the last and only civilisation, the eternal Kingdom. Hallownest”” “Eternity in promise and charge in progeny cursed.” “Now this Kingdom's stasis becomes the Wyrm's legacy.” “Though this hive exists within Hallownest, we play no part in its attempt at perpetuation.” It is not literally time. He is a higher being, he does not need to use the Void to “achieve eternal life”. Not to mention that the Void opposes his own powers too (see previous point). 15:25 “It seems to suggest that this egg [in White Palace] is where version 1.0 of the Pale King hatched into its upgraded form” It does not. The Pale King became his current bug form in the Cast-Off shell. The Wanderer's Journal even mentions that too on page 111: “Deep within the maw of the [Cast-Off Shell], a pale, broken egg of some sort hints at such a rebirth.” Not only that, but the egg of the Knight in the Abyss would be DEADLY for the Pale King. Void opposes his power, it would simply kill him if he were to become corrupted by the Void like the eggs of the Vessels were. 15:40 “Elsewhere in White Palace there is a nursery playing this song on the music box (shade theme). The sound that accompanies our Knight's past life coincides with the same sound from a nursery housed in the Pale King's palace.” Yes, this is true, but not because of the reason you're describing. It's because the Hollow Knight grew up in White Palace (see Path of Pain scene). This nursery was probably for them. And since the Hollow Knight is a Vessel too, it makes sense that the Shade theme place for that area. 16:21 “The existence of a connection between our Knight and the Pale King seems undeniable” Yes, it is undeniable. The Knight is the child of the Pale King. 18:13 “In cut dialogue that was datamined from the game, it shows that the Hollow Knight says “father”. Cut dialogue is not evidence. The "Father?" is cut dream nail dialogue. It was cut for a reason. We don't know when this line was written, in which context it would be used exactly, maybe the Hollow Knight's fight was different at the time, etc. 19:20 “Losing his memory helps make him purely hollow” It does not. Quirrel lost his memory and this does not happen to him. Not to mention that the Knight is not hollow. There are multiple places where the Knight is said to have a will: Steel Soul Jinn: "...It refuses to trade...? It has a will... all Its own." Void Heart description: "Unifies the void under the bearer's will." Description of a pure Vessel: "No will to break." Lastly I'm going to address some fundamental problems with this entire theory that you did not address or seem to have forgotten about. The most obvious evidence that contradicts that the Pale King is the Knight is that the Knight and the Pale King are both seen at the same time. This is during the Birthplace memory cutscene where the Hollow Knight is led out of the Abyss by the Pale King. This is a memory of the Knight themselves since the Knight dreamnails their own reflection to access this memory. Furthermore, the achievement for acquiring Void Heart also says: "Remember the past and unite the Abyss" This supports the fact that it is the Knight’s memory. Therefore, the Pale King cannot be the Knight, since they were alive at the same time. Secondly, the Knight is the child of the Pale King, not a transformation. The lore tablet to the right of the throne in White Palace says that the Vessels are the progeny of the Pale King, and the Pale King also says that the Vessels are "born of God and Void", the God obviously referring to him and the White Lady who are both higher beings. Since the Knight is the child of the Pale King (and the White Lady), the Pale King cannot BE the Knight. None of the points that were brought up align with the evidence that is in the game, and it even contradicts it in various places. To put it quite simply, the Knight is NOT the Pale King.

      1. NULLIFIED

        mans wrote a college essay

      2. Just A Normal Vessel

        @Zach Reyes but what about the corpse the dream dialogue iselda having the same shape probably iselda and dryya just same spesies

      3. Just A Normal Vessel

        @o k this comment maybe useles but resilliance born of two void is that the knight is void and hollow and if you want more lore watch mossbag

      4. Just A Normal Vessel

        @Ariyan K no it's not that we expect it to be Canon no way it's wrong but we expect that the theory doesn't destroy the storie the lore the premist and no it's not original because it's already been made

      5. Just A Normal Vessel

        @Yeah KeeN i think he mean the other comment on the video but this comment is useles because you're comment is made 1 year ago

    2. suicidal rezboy

      Book theory?

    3. Mr Chicken Nugget

      The pale king was sleeping when the knight comes and FREAKIGN MURDERS HIM This is a joke BTW

    4. Premium Kickz

      The aloof hydrogen opportunely rely because reading independently pump toward a panoramic withdrawal. bent, jolly asterisk

    5. Stephen Bockrath

      One issue. When they died hronet and the knight burst into void. HORNET ISN'T VOIIIDD

    6. Ameera .G

      Travel theory where you explain places in fiction or real life the geography and biology and origin and sometimes evolution and predict animal types that will evolve in fiction or reality cover from old world Europe to the world of pokemon!

    7. Fool The Royal

      You do realize that the vessels literally are the White Lady and the Pale King's children? Many Knights escaped the abyss, not just the vessel we play. We see many vessels who escaped and perished on the surface.

    8. Abigail Brown

      I couldn't reply to the pinned comment, so here's my reply. It makes sense that Sumwan knows this, they are an editor of the wiki for hollow night. They could know somebody who made the game. Also if you don't know what Sumwan's pronouns are, please use they or they're. It sucks to get mis-gendered. :)

    9. Sage Keeling-Salt

      Tf was that intro? R.I.P Knight

    10. YourFriendlyNeighbourhood Crusader

      Man, why did the theory on my favorite game ever have to be such an absolute trainwreck

    11. Jeffrey Clements

      Watching this again cause I thought it was a fun vid and honestly y’all take this to seriously

    12. Wiel Mushawiry Suryana


    13. I Speak Thy Truth

      But, what if the 'Dreams' are memories? I'm no theorist and I'm most likely BRUTALLY wrong, but a thought that crossed my mind was what if the The Knight (Maine character) Is a part of the Hollow Knight (Physically and or Mentally) Again, no theorist here and I have a 99.999% chance of being wrong but who knows. I have no idea what I'm talking about. But You know what Ima just head out and watch Anime

    14. Luciano Roberti

      bruhh look THE hollow knight Is not hollow And That Is Why The Infection Seeps Out But YOu Are And Thats Why You Are SPecial

    15. vequest

      6:46 guess soul master is a higher being? Anybody can use soul saying that to get powerful soul you ussually have to kill things and hell as an higher being we still have to kill to have enough soul power to use it.

    16. Mr. Egg

      We are killing innocent brainwashed bugs all over the game 😭

    17. Robie Wynes

      Dame. That is actually a great theory! ...... To bad its not what's going on bud. But I would defiantly read your fan fiction ^^

    18. nili rani shikha

      The dashing honey clinically hang because pear therapeutically prepare down a immense day. befitting, skillful drum

    19. Emma Bowen

      ye we're cultuerd

    20. Xer0

      Don't wanna be criticaljust saying the actall lore The main Knight is the son of the pale king His sister is hornet adopted by herra His brother is the final boss The Hollow Knight His parents are The Pale King and The White Lady I gtg cya

    21. ?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿

      wait... you play Ori and the Blind Forest???

    22. Erica :/

      maybe you should stick to fnaf theories matthew patrick

    23. i plays for days

      i love it but......IS SO F*CKING HARD i CRIED it was so hard

    24. Mac Gamer215

      The reason this doesn't work is why would the knight have a memory of falling into the void as seen in one part of the game, he sees the king and the hollow knight in that part, if he was the king. The king cannot be in the same place as himself if the player was thrown away. If you think of it the king had no idea you the player was the one to be able to complete your destiny. The identity of the knight is just the true or pure vessel, you ARE just one of the shades, but you are just the one that happens to be completely hollow. The king had no idea. That is why this doesn't work

    25. FO F

      This game's so damn depressing

    26. cletus sollow

      Lmao you overthinked your theory man. You shouldn't make a theory video about lore that has already been discovered and has been getting theorized since the game released. It would be more fun if you just made a scientific theory video about it. The fandom has already made the lore official. That's probably why you got a lot of hate for this. Because you were trying to break that official lore and make a seperate lore branch. You should've gotten help from a few other hollow knight theorists like mossbag instead of just finding facts by yourself.

    27. Great Hex

      i thought the ending of this game so sad, that the knight sacrificed for who he loves through out his quest, but it was actually a loyalty of a ruler for his servents, he sacrificed him self and his son, for his kingdom and also his son(at a later version)... this is so sad but it also makes me want to complete the game once more just to feel the iching of how peaceful, lovely, well made, a masterpiece of all time in the history of games feels when u finish it.

    28. Veljko Vasiljevic

      Bruh no

    29. Mizael Robles

      Oh god the whole thing is so lined so connected the hollow knight is like father is that you i... I DONT WANT TO HURT YOU and it stabs it self

      1. Niall Something


    30. KingCrab

      4:17 matcbuying that book just for this video


      9:24 ha! *laughs in 7 hours of city of tears*

    32. Le caméléon


    33. hovering thyme

      Hold on, you say that we are royalty in the game which has lost our memory. But if you pay attention to the birthplace cutscene then it is clear that the king was walking out with the hollow knight, while we as the character were looking right behind them.

      1. Martin James

        The theory is quite frankly wrong, so no worries

      2. hovering thyme

        Also about the higher beings tablets, the king used the void to create the vessels. And some of the void was used to create the knights in the white palace, That could also be an example on how we can read the tablets, unless they weren't built at that time.

    34. Your sleep Paralysis demon

      In the beginning of the episode I saw void particles coming out of hornet mossbag fandom RISE UP

    35. tanuki Demon


    36. Daro The lazy cunt

      Next hollow knight theory: bretta is the pale king, who is also cornifer, who is made of void

    37. Beep Beep

      Why was hornet leaking void when she died in the intro?!? Nah I’m kidding. Seriously though why?

    38. Micheal Mugica

      The symbol when it lights up for Game Theory is lure for his other channels

    39. Kevin Thurman

      I mean at one point in the game it literally says you are the hollow knight

    40. ChipDrawzStuff

      Hollow knight is the dark souls of gaming

    41. Iza Wojciechowska

      the main's character name isn't the knight but it is ghost

    42. Calvin Bubblepants

      Did he just play the whole game in steel soul, so he never got to see his shade?


      radiance? like in valorant?

    44. Grimm Stickmin

      Sorry but all the endings have been confirmed to be true

    45. luna

      I know like most of the lore off the top of my head lol

    46. Pollymuff 08

      This is horrible

    47. Noor_ Eldin1

      Fu nerd

    48. Ian Sandoval

      I am going to name as many incorrect things as possible in this video, tell me if you find more, the knight is not the pale king the white lady calls you her kin to your face

    49. Ian Sandoval

      The god tier talk is very easy to understand when you talk to every body, it says something about the hollow knight seal the light( radiance)

    50. Em H

      How does this guy continue to misinterpret the lore of every piece of media he touches?? Ace attorney, Persona, Petscop, the list goes on...

    51. JustPlainJosh

      Big reasons for why many characters speak of you as being similar to the Pale King and being royalty: -You are literally the child of the King, making you royalty -Some of that dialogue arises from wearing the Kingsoul, which is an embodiment of part of the Pale King's power -Some of that dialogue arises after acquiring the King's Brand, which marks you as king (correct me if I'm wrong but I think the Royal Retainers' Dream Nail dialogue says something about bearing the mark of the king) Anyway, the Knight isn't the Pale King

      1. Soma17

        And saying that your the last "son" of the king who's now dead you are literally the king

    52. Daedric Ebony


    53. Cubic Hazard

      Wait, are You not going to mention that we clearly see the king and the player in the same place during a flash back?

    54. Blake The Eevee

      is this a good theory?

    55. Erwin Estrada-jr

      i gotta say, this is by far the most pin point theory to date.

    56. Monica Zamfir

      You know this "knight" might be the prince

    57. NovDev

      Is this more com. than fnaf or am I weird

    58. Hero Warrior

      Oh and I think the Fact that the Knight can use the Monarch wings, a little pun. Monarch wings? The KING'S wings? I think that the reason why the Knight can use all his abilities while climbing out of the void is because when he fell, his powers were Scattered across the kingdom. I think the reason why the Knight can use the Monarch wings is because he Inherited them from his Father.

    59. Hero Warrior

      Also I had a small theory, I think The Knight was meant to be the vessel, but The Hollow Knight pulled him down and took his place, maybe doing the Entire Kingdom a favour?

    60. Hero Warrior

      Hey Matpat Hollow Knight is a really great game and I really think you should do Some more theories on it, maybe do it on something like monomon's archives? The Archives are begging you for a theory. Just a thought.


      This is way too sad

    62. GamerKirby- Roblox

      this isnt just a theory this is the entire game explained

      1. Gen_

        what, no

    63. Melody Fussell

      I've only played a few levels of Hollow Knight on my brother's XBox but yeah I may have just now bought it on Steam because this video reminded me that I liked it.

    64. Bobmcbob7802

      2021 btw, He knows you get part the king soul by going to the dead body of the pale king

    65. i am heavy

      now explain to me how he could transform into there CHILD

    66. Darkness Light

      Frieza: "This isn't even my final form." Pale King: "Hold my Void."

    67. Conor Barrett

      This got me into hollow knight

    68. Magolor Official

      As a massive bug hater, Hollow Knight is one of my favourite games to kill things in.

    69. maroin Definitly human

      You just have to say that stay night, UBW and heavens feel are 3 different timelines and everyone will understand.

    70. Un Cubo jpg

      This is in Born of god and meme list XD

    71. ᒍᑭ

      Hey dont

    72. Timmy2Tone

      why would he be so sad about the hollow knight when he cast out thousands of his children into the Void

    73. Diego GM

      Good title

    74. i aint got no emoji

      Why do i find this funny? Hornet: *insert thanos beatbox sound*

    75. mubby

      0:22 not only did he make a very bad theory, but he made void particles coming outta hornet

      1. Starthing125


    76. Rose Petal

      The ironic thing is that when I saw this video my brother was playing it about 2 hours ago

    77. Whispering Pixel

      I despised the Pale King. Now I can't. Thanks a lot, Matpat:(

    78. Moosedoggy

      Might as well just say hornet is void

    79. Óskar Rafnsson

      The knigt is the pale kings child

    80. Óskar Rafnsson

      And all the pale kings children

    81. Óskar Rafnsson

      This is not correct What about the void and all the other knights in there

    82. Drusy A

      I just got into this game but I really like it

    83. TheTigerDragon

      sun godess

    84. Emile Emile


    85. Azure

      All right, time to pull an insult from my jar and adapt it to the situation *ahem* "You're third rate theorist with a fourth rate theory!"... In all seriousness as far as theories go, this one is NOT that bad, Hollow Knight lore often takes people actually watching videos of the stuff just to fully interpret, and is filled with occam's razor... ...More research was called for, but this was clearly made out of love or at least for fun. So I say to be a little less harsh on the man, though I'm nearly 2 years late to do so.

    86. Fire nutter

      the atonning for there mistakes asumming the theory is right would indeed be quite the story arch one of wich i find is sad and tragic but has deth and adds to chariterdevelopment wich is relly awsome

    87. noone important

      when (if) silksong comes out could you play it on GTLive please

    88. A vibe

      1. The night is royalty the child of the the king 2. THe night and the king are shown in the same room

    89. Cris Michel

      I have the funniest feeling that MatPat doesn't know what "cultured" means. At least… not what it means as of 2019-2020.

    90. Red Danny Boy

      Well, I partly believe this, seeing as the engraving near Fury of the Fallen says something like "Don't hide your true self within our kingdom, let us bathe within your majesty." I forgot the exact words.

      1. Soma17

        They are in the same room. Enough said the royalty references is because you are pale kings son and have kings brand.

      2. Soldier [TF2]

        That was just a Tablet to make Higher Beings show their might. Or who knows, maybe he would see their might and have them executed.

    91. Jewel Mendoza

      pls make a theory abawt genshin impact

    92. Greninjadude 37

      The reason they say your “royalty” is because when you get kings brand, you technically become the king (I might be wrong) also you’re his child

    93. KOG4 Ras

      Ok you’re the theorist here and I don’t really know that much about what I’m talking about but I’m pretty sure we are a hollow knight as well as the hollow knight because we are a knight that is hollow and are more hollow then him

    94. Noah Heymann

      2 words: Sealed Siblings

      1. Noah Heymann

        That too

      2. Starthing125

        Two more words: Birthplace cutscene

    95. Kids Family

      Bro i have the game ori

    96. Drawing Banana

      Can we PLEASE stop hating on the man, it's a theory, an educated guess, and while it can be debunked it's still fun to think about. I understand people like certain games a lot but it isn't ok to get toxic about someone getting lore wrong. Now, I don't speak for everyone but there is a group of people who think things like this are ok when they are most certainly not, and the problem is it is fictional lore that people are getting mad over, it hardly matters to the degree people think it does, and it pains me that people have to sit through this. Please think before you type, because you might ruin someone's opinion of a game. There's a reason why games have lore, to give fans a deeper story, but when you get mad at someone who feels passionate about something that is 'wrong' it can take a toll on them. There is a person behind that screen.

      1. Soma17

        @Drawing Banana bro its not his lol and this is nearly 2 years old he doesn't care

      2. Drawing Banana

        @Soma17 remember when they said how much that hurt them? How much being insulted hurt them? What I'm getting at is just stop hating on specific theories just because you don't agree with it.

      3. Soma17

        @Drawing Banana like 90 percent of his theories are stolen from forums or vids forever ago look it up yourself you will find the same thing but from a year or two before not all that's a exaggerated amount but a solid amount are and just because people made it and the editing is great doesnt mean it's a good theory or a good video because it looks nice this channel has taken way more hits remeber ness is sans?

      4. Drawing Banana

        @Soma17 I dont think all his theories are stolen, but if you believe so I won't judge you. Just think about how the multiple people who worked on this feel

      5. Soma17

        It's not him he stole the theory like all his theories and called it his own he ignores things to make epople who dont pay as much attention believe it and contradict himself and dodge known evidence to make it sound better The person behind the screen is garbage

    97. Sean Moloney

      I obviously dont like this theory but it introduced me and I'm sure many other people to this masterpiece.So thanks Matpat.Not a great theory but thamks for introducing people

    98. Marcus / Kirby Rose / Starlight

      So it leads to reincarnation

    99. chase pereau

      this is a good theory

      1. Exigency

        it's really, really not

    100. Itami

      MatPats theory: exists The entire fandom: you are not a fool, you are the entire colleseum!